What is the difference between Autotune and a Vocoder?

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A friend of mine mentioned that he had read somewhere that Autotune is actually not a vocoder. Is this true? If so, what is the difference?

Adrian Grigore

Posted 2010-12-17T17:23:35.820

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A vocoder is a specific effect: you pass the signal through a multi-band filter, each band to an envelope follower, and then the output from the envelope follower is used to perform filter control and additional synthesis. "It turns an analog audio signal in to something that can control a synthesis engine" is a simplified way of saying that.

Where as "autotune" is really more a process and it may employ a vocoder to that end. But not all autotune algorithms use vocoder-based techniques to do their thing. Example: Melodyne.

Ian C.

Posted 2010-12-17T17:23:35.820

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1Good info, see Robert's answer for more information on autotune. – Goodbye Stack Exchange – 2010-12-18T00:07:15.440

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Your friend is right; Autotune is not a vocoder.

A vocoder works by taking a musical sound input (typically a synthesizer tone with a lot of harmonics), and passing it through a multi-band dynamic EQ filter, where the setting of each EQ frequency band is based on the relative spectral volume of sonic content in your voice within each frequency band at any given moment in time. In other words, if you say "aaaah", that sound has a predominant frequency; it is that frequency that is emphasized in the synthesizer's output.

Autotune works by pitch-shifting the audio signal to tones that you specify with a musical keyboard, while holding the formant information steady. This prevents the "mickey-mouse" or "kidnapper" effect that can occur with an ordinary pitch shifter.

Robert Harvey

Posted 2010-12-17T17:23:35.820

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Robert, great comment. follow-ons to answers should be added as comments. People can still up vote comments and (I think) you benefit from up-votes on the answer too. – None – 2010-12-17T19:35:46.960

2@Ian: To be clear, Ian describes what a vocoder does. I describe what Autotune does. I have edited my answer to clarify. – Robert Harvey – 2010-12-17T20:57:07.183

This isn't a comment, it's half an answer. Neither answer addresses both parts of the question, actually. – Goodbye Stack Exchange – 2010-12-17T23:23:20.617

1@neilfein: How can I make it better? Ian has already described clearly how a vocoder works. Describing it again in my answer would be tantamount to copy-pasting what he said. Boy, you guys are a tough crowd. – Robert Harvey – 2010-12-17T23:46:05.253

@Robert - Everything on this board is under a creative commons license. Copy-pasting seems silly, but if someone's answer is incomplete, feel free to summarize previous answers, it's not stealing; you're constructing a complete answer that way. Incidentally, your answer told me something about pitch correction I didn't know. – Goodbye Stack Exchange – 2010-12-18T00:03:39.873

@neilfein: I updated my answer with my own verbal description of how I understand vocoders to work. – Robert Harvey – 2010-12-18T00:07:45.067

@Robert - Nice, more info here.

– Goodbye Stack Exchange – 2010-12-18T00:14:24.110

Great, the vocoder description here is also better in this answer. (It remained obscure in Ian's, but yours made it clear). Ian's insight that autotuners might use vocoders, is still a good point there, though. – Sz. – 2019-04-04T11:29:57.000