Does the Signal/Noise ratio keeps constant as you rise the gain?

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I have written about this question in my blog. I appreciate your opinions.

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Javier Zumer

Posted 2012-05-02T09:56:16.540

Reputation: 90

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Digitally speaking, the SNR should remain the same when you simply increase level. The SNR in the digital world is the same as the SQNR (Signal to Quantization Noise Ratio), which is determined by your bit depth. 16-bits gives you 96 dB SQNR (ideal case, assuming your signal is captured at maximum level before clipping), so if you captured some quiet audio at say around -30 dBFS, and normalized the audio file to 0 dBFS, your digital noise floor would also increase by 30 to -66 dBFS. That's why with quiet or unpredictable recordings, using 24-bit gives you more leeway to boost levels in post without worrying about your quantization noise. In the previous example with 24-bit your SQNR would still be less than -100 dBFS after normalization.

Of course if your audio signal has captured a higher level of analog noise (i.e. background ambient noise or circuitry noise), that will take precedence over the quantization noise, but once digital should still increase linearly as you boost amplitude. Hence as @TheFaderJockey says get your analog signal hottest at the preamp gain to minimize noise ahead of digitization.

schwartzsound

Posted 2012-05-02T09:56:16.540

Reputation: 177

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In the analogue world, the "gain knob" at the top of your console is often actually an attenuator, rather than an amplifier. The mic pre boosts the signal by a fixed level, and the gain knob actually reduces that level as the knob is moved to the left. Add to that the fact that the preamp is probably the cleanest sounding amplifier circuit in your signal chain: introducing the least amount of noise.

Therefore, for the highest SNR, the best practice is to get your gain up as high as you can right there at the pre. Set it so that you have just a little headroom before clipping, and you'll have the highest SNR you can achieve.

TheFaderJockey

Posted 2012-05-02T09:56:16.540

Reputation: 774

If a preamp has both a gain and an output. You're saying max the gain knob first, then the output? I've rented a TL Audio Ivory 5001 for the month. – MtL – 2012-05-02T18:39:53.743

While I am not familiar with that particular piece of kit, I looked up a block diagram for it, and in this case I would say yes: start with the input gain first if your goal is clean signal.

According to the block diagram, the input gain knob acts just upstream of the (solid state) preamp whilst the output knob attenuates the output of a secondary (tube/valve) amplifier.

So really, it would depend on whether or not you are looking to capture the cleanest signal possible, or if the character of tube circuitry is more important to you. – TheFaderJockey – 2012-05-03T23:06:41.367

Were it I, I would use the input gain control to get my level, and consider the output control as a "character" knob. Turning it up will increase the signal level through the tube amplifier, giving you that lovely harmonic distortion characteristic of such circuits. If you weight your gain structure more toward the input side, you'll get a cleaner signal. If you weight it more to the output side, you'll get a "warmer" signal. It all depends on what you are aesthetically looking for. – TheFaderJockey – 2012-05-03T23:09:00.827