Why Marxists Parties Keeps so Strong in England While Doesn't in USA?

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As we keep reading about the subject, seems clear that marxist Parties remains very strong in England, while don't in USA, remaining as allies of Democratic Party, which rivals Republican Party, for a long time.

The main question is: why USA overcome marxists parties as main representation while England didn't?

Vasconcelos1914

Posted 2019-10-11T12:53:18.167

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Question was closed 2019-10-11T17:01:21.250

3The USA doesn't have a Labour Party, at least, not as far as I can tell. There have been several attempts but none of them have endured. – F1Krazy – 2019-10-11T12:56:23.847

Adjusted question! – Vasconcelos1914 – 2019-10-11T13:10:29.347

4The Labour Party of the UK (or, for that matter, any labour party in Europe and most elsewhere) would not be considered Marxist as that has a different meaning. Thus, after your edit this question deserves my downvote. – Jan – 2019-10-11T13:21:58.817

1This doesn't answer your question, but European countries, even the UK, tend to be more socialist. – None – 2019-10-11T13:22:16.457

Couldn't it be related to the fact that U.S.A. is Presidencialist Republic while Britain is a Monarchic Parlamentarism? – Vasconcelos1914 – 2019-10-11T13:26:02.600

2@Vasconcelos1914 Probably has more to do with the US's longstanding hatred of communism and everything resembling it. – eyeballfrog – 2019-10-11T13:40:54.167

Mightn't be due its continental territory? – Vasconcelos1914 – 2019-10-11T13:49:57.490

@barrycarter [citation needed] – Jan – 2019-10-11T13:52:31.543

3It may just mean that the UK has more political, as well as religious, freedom than the US. When I moved to the US in 1975 I had to deny having ever been a member of the Communist party to get a visa. I had never had the UK government ask my anything about party membership - it was simply none of their business. – Patricia Shanahan – 2019-10-11T13:53:56.480

11There seems to be a misunderstanding in the question. The UK Labour Party is center-left, but definitely not Marxist. It is usually considered a social-democratic party. Are there actual marxist parties in the UK with non-negligible support? Either this question confuses social-democracy with Marxism and is meant to ask why there is no social-democratic party in the United States (parts of the Democrats are often considered social-democratic) or it is overestimating the support for Marxism in the UK. – Philipp – 2019-10-11T13:56:49.467

@Jan Don't have a citation, sorry. You could argue that higher tax rates imply socialism, but that assumes the public is supportive of these task rates. It was more a general unsourced observation. – None – 2019-10-13T15:58:12.460

@barrycarter I didn’t know that higher tax rates automatically imply socialisation of businesses … – Jan – 2019-10-13T16:28:08.163

Answers

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The terms "Socialist" or "Marxist" can be used either to make fine distinctions within the leftist spectrum or as a pejorative against anyone to the left of the speaker. (Note that "Fascist" has the same dual use.)

Calling Labour "Marxist" is either pejorative or simply misinformed. There were Labour governments in the UK both during the Cold War and afterwards, yet the UK remained part of NATO. There is still private ownership of (most) means of production, too.

o.m.

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1In US political discussion "socialist" is used to cover such a wide range that it has become meaningless. – Patricia Shanahan – 2019-10-11T22:03:41.500