What is the justification for allowing elected officials to accept money from corporations?



After reading this news article and this one I am perplexed. Admittedly, I'm no expert in politics.

But in a free nation, where senators and representatives are elected to represent their constituents, what is the justification or reasoning for allowing elected officials to accept money from corporations that bid for government contracts, or unions that collectively bargain for government contracts?

How is this different from bribery? Is this not trading a form of capital for votes?


Posted 2013-07-30T02:52:28.330

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6What the article "forgot" to mention is that these payments from defense contractors are not cash that ends up in legislators' wallets, they are campaign contributions that must not be used for any other purpose. – Eugene Seidel – 2013-07-30T04:16:08.630

2@EugeneSeidel I agree that they left out that crucial point. I fortunately do have enough 'background' to have realized that point. Having said that -- it still seems like bribery to me. Only the payment is in a different color of money. Thoughts? – Joe – 2013-07-30T04:20:10.270

2It isn't bribery as defined by the criminal code. So if I understand you, you are arguing for a change to campaign-financing laws. As the last major round of such reform was not too long ago (I seem to remember Sen. McCain as one of the principal sponsors) the chances of a fresh restart are rather low, I think. – Eugene Seidel – 2013-07-30T04:24:21.120

@EugeneSeidel I'm not arguing either way -- I'm inquiring as to how the system got to be this way and why. What were the driving forces? – Joe – 2013-07-30T05:23:44.993

1I see two driving forces: 1) it's hard to avoid anyway, without a "legal market" there would be a "black market" (which could be worse). 2) Those who make the laws like money. – Trylks – 2013-07-30T08:58:40.950

@Trylks - the last sentence could (and should) be an answer. – user4012 – 2013-07-30T12:58:54.507



Elected Officials may not accept campaign contributions from corporations.

How the system got to be this way and why. What were the driving forces?

It all began in 1907 with theTillman Act, Teddy Roosevelt stated in his annual address before Congress:

All contributions by corporations to any political committee or for any political purpose should be forbidden by law; directors should not be permitted to use stockholders' money for such purposes; and, moreover, a prohibition of this kind would be, as far as it went, an effective method of stopping the evils aimed at in corrupt practices acts. Not only should both the National and the several State Legislatures forbid any officer of a corporation from using the money of the corporation in or about any election, but they should also forbid such use of money in connection with any legislation save by the employment of counsel in public manner for distinctly legal services.

The Act didn't have any teeth, because it lacked penalties and an enforcement method. Congress would later pass the Federal Corrupt Practices Act

The 1910 Act established campaign spending limits for political parties in House general elections. It was the first federal law to establish public disclosure of financial spending by political parties (but not candidates) by requiring the national committees of political parties to file post-election reports regarding their contributions to individual candidates and their own individual expenditures. However, the 1910 Act only covered single-state political parties and election committees, carried few penalties and was rarely enforced.

The FCPA was repealed when the 1971 Federal Election Campaign Act was passed. It was amended several times. It established the Federal Election Commission and increased disclosure of contributions for federal campaigns. It was amended in 1974 to place legal limits on the campaign contributions.

Corporations are currently prohibited from making campaign contributions.

Corporations, Labor Organizations and National Banks

Contributions made from the treasuries of corporations, labor organizations and national banks are prohibited. Additionally, national banks and federally chartered corporations may not make contributions in connection with any election, including state and local elections. Contributions may, however, be made from separate segregated funds (also called political action committees or PACs) established by corporations, labor organizations, national banks, and incorporated membership organizations. 11 CFR 114.2 and 114.5.

Political Action Committees have First Amendment rights (see Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech."

As for how this is different than bribery, it would require that the campaign contribution was given to the government official with the promise to influence an official act; aid in committing fraud; or for them to omit doing their lawful duty.


Posted 2013-07-30T02:52:28.330

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2"contribution was given to the government official with the promise to influence an official act" if I were to give some money to a bouncer to let me into a club, I'm not going to ask "do you promise to let me in if I give you this money?" But surely, we both know what's going on. – Jorn Vernee – 2017-07-13T12:41:29.667

1Ya, not only did sfgate.com misleadingly say that legislators got money as if it were for their own personal use, they also said that it came from "defense contractors". But since that would be illegal it must have come from private individuals associated with these companies or from Political Action Committees (PACs) sponsored by them. As long as the info is available and everything is transparent, I don't see a big problem. Perhaps ballots should list candidates' primary $ponsors, too. So instead of John Doe (D-IL), you'd get John Doe (D-IL, AFL/CIO), or Jane Smith (R-General Dynamics). – Eugene Seidel – 2013-07-30T16:36:16.890

@EugeneSeidel I like that idea! Campaign trail busses would have to be marked up like a NASCAR vehicle! – None – 2013-07-31T14:36:41.400


Whenever you hear about "politicians receiving money from corporations" It almost always refers to campaign contributions rather than personal gifts.

Both taking personal gifts and using campaign funds as personal funds are illegal, and numerous politicians have faced legal troubles for doing such things(like Ted Stevens)

Sam I am says Reinstate Monica

Posted 2013-07-30T02:52:28.330

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The justification is likely personal and wide ranging across the political spectrum.

That said, in general:

senators and representatives are elected to represent their constituents

which includes business owners and industry leaders.

How is this different from bribery?

The details. Bribery is illegal. Campaign contributions are not. Fine line, perhaps.


Posted 2013-07-30T02:52:28.330