Why is President Trump making such a big deal about fake news, and specifically targeting reputable organizations like The New York Times and CNN?



The Trump administration has been targeting reputable news organizations like The Times and CNN, calling them "fake news".

What is this administration trying to accomplish here?


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TL;DR I have been as bi-partisan as possible.

President Trump is attempting to discredit the media as they attempt to expose aspects of his administration they find worthy of journalism. Some may be driven by editorial bias however the majority are reporting genuine news-worthy stories, often using direct statements and quotes from the Trump administration or Donald Trump himself.

Due to the lack of experience of the administration they have made clumsy mistakes which look, at first glance, to demonstrate a lack of understanding of the US Constitution, political affairs, legal structure and general all-round US civics. This is extremely embarrassing and de-legitimizes President Trump. In response to being unable to prevent this, the President has attacked the media directly trying to erode their credibility and trust.

The situation is made worse by the epidemic, as described by Trump, of information leaking to the Press from the judicial and law enforcement agencies, from the intelligence community, from the legislature and from Trump's own administration.

When questioned, anonymous staffers have said that the leaks must continue as they uncover more and more information they believe should be in the hands of the populace. Reports are that Admin staff are now using an encrypted chat platform called Confide to leak material freely.


His primary method of attack is to use the repetition of a simplistic phrase

Fake News. You are Fake News. Failing Fake News.

which plays well into the demographics of the voter base he is targeting; many of which distrust the Government or any suitably large organisation (which can be warranted given that the US Government engineered the biggest gold theft in history from the US populace) and ongoing cultural divisions between North and South USA. The Trump rhetoric is a lesser version of the message distributed by media outlets such as InfoWars. They share the same demographic and espouse conspiracy theory, paranoia and fear of Government, which Trump alludes to frequently with the qualifier

We don't know. We need to find out what's going on.

In addition Trump uses the propaganda technique, what-about-ism which is a common tactic for deflecting criticism or oversight.

Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world. It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy), a logical fallacy which attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.

Many of the media outlets targeted by the Trump administration are labelled as liberal which is a term used in the USA as a pejorative by non-liberal voters. Some are, admittedly, outwardly liberal (CNN, Guardian) whilst others are attempting to strike a completely non-partisan reporting platform (BBC) although conspiracy theorists would argue otherwise.

This is part of a wider trend showing that Democrats are becoming more liberal and Republicans are becoming more Conservative with the USA becoming more polarised.

Fake News

The Trump administration, and the President, have also sought to pivot the label "fake news" from referring to largely fabricated reports describing fantastical and untrue events which veer often into paranoid, anti-authority conspiracy theory to a more insidious label applied to the press corps as a whole; but also specifically any press institution classed as critical of the Trump administration.

This approach allows the administration to avoid direct criticism of individual events and policies by simply labeling the entirety of the press fake and thus, anything they print or investigate is fake by proxy. In doing so any nuanced investigation into any aspect of the Trump Presidency is smothered and overwhelmed as a figment of the fake news.

There is a discernible pattern and correlation showing that fake news is primarily endorsed, shared and buoyed by right-wing voters. Fake news / conspiracy theory often centers on anti-governance and dovetails with ideological views of Trump and right-wing voters meaning they are more susceptible to considering fake news websites as legitimate.

known false news stories that appeared in the three months before the election, those favoring Trump were shared a total of 30 million times on Facebook, while those favoring Clinton were shared eight million times;

"Pope backs Trump", "Hillary sold weapons to ISIS", "FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead" - these fake headlines all went viral on Facebook in the run up to the election, gaining such high engagement that BuzzFeed published an analysis on how they had outperformed real news on Facebook.

Donald Trump also courted conspiracy theories. Initially, he suggested Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of JFK, perpetuated the myth of Obama not being born in the United States (which he later conceded) and repeatedly claimed climate change as a hoax all of which are the preserve of fake news websites.

Trump's unpredictability and his fueling of distrust of his opponents led to a growth in fake news that was supportive of him which now flames a cycle of de-legitimizing the established press making the term fake news essentially meaningless and more of a stick to beat the mainstream press with than a phenomenon in itself. Donald Trump said recently that "any negative polls are fake news".

Wider Pattern

There is considerable historical precedence to suggest that Trump is engaging in a wider de-legitimising of the Press in preparation for a wider assault on the Constitution, of which a free press, is a cornerstone.

Trump has continually referred to Fascist rhetoric directly (Drain the Swamp was from Mussolini) and he refers to the "lying press" daily which was also an early tactic of Adolf Hitler. In additional, many of his policies have been echoed in Fascist leaders throughout history but that deconstruction is for another post.

Mussolini established a High Commission for the press in the spring of 1929. Insisting that the Commission would not interfere with the freedom of the press, Mussolini’s Keeper of the Seals, Alfredo Rocco, nevertheless maintained an exception for “any activity contrary to the national interest,” “faithfulness to the Fatherland” naturally assuming the position of ultimate importance.

Journalists were, like all other professions, encouraged to see their occupation as one of many forms of service to the nation, to participate actively in the education and inculcation of the Italian people.

Right now, it is clear that far from embracing a transparent White House administration and striking a conciliatory tone with the free press of the world, Donald Trump is doubling down on his attacks and is taking punitive measures against what he considers to be a hostile actor in the 2017 United States of America.

Whether you consider the press hostile to Donald Trump or hostile to the USA is largely a question of your cultural upbringing and voter persuasion but a case to suggest Breitbart is a better custodian of Democratic First amendment rights rather than the BBC or the New York Times is nonexistent.

For instance, the New York Times, established in 1851, continually printed in New York, has won over 120 Pulitzer Prizes; more than any other newspaper organisation. It is considered a "Newspaper of Record" along with the LA Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.

One whose editorial and news-gathering functions are considered professional and typically authoritative.

However, a number of historians and commentators have begun to draw parallels and conclusions from the timing of Donald Trump's outbursts and attacks. It appears that the most memorable attacks, often considered buffoonery, are synchronised with serious legislative events and revelations which become buried behind the latest "tweet-rage". This is speculation but not unprecedented.

Psychological Suitability

There is a growing trend in reporting questioning the mental health of Donald Trump. Supporters of the President claim this is a distraction and unprovoked attack however in recent weeks more and more psychiatric and psychologist specialists have been speaking up using various news agencies and platforms to express alarm at his erratic behaviour. For instance, in a letter to the New York Times, 35 mental health professionals warned that the "grave emotional instability" indicated in Mr Trump's speech and actions made him "incapable of serving safely as president".

But the majority of mental health professionals have refrained from making public statements, following a self-imposed principle known as the "Goldwater rule", adopted by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in 1973.

His attacks on the press are held as further indicators that he takes negative reporting about him or his administration extremely seriously and he cannot refocus on his task at hand until he has launched a counter-offensive against the aggrieving party. This is further evidence from mental health professionals that Donald Trump may lack the restraint required for the Commander in Chief role, a situation exacerbated by his continued endorsement of ideas which are best labelled as conspiracy theory.


So far, Trump's approach to the media, labelled as the MSM (Mainstream Media) by predominantly right-wing and/or libertarian demographics has played well with his core voter base who believe that the media bloc are part of a larger coordinated conspiracy against him and the right wing in general.

For instance; the Financial Times reports

Mr Trump’s most recent Gallup approval rating was 88 per cent among Republicans, which is historically normal, or even good, for a president within his own party. Even after a chaotic first month characterised by protests, the shambolic rollout of a travel ban, cabinet shake-ups and allegations of contacts with Russia, a dedicated core of US adults continues to approve of the job the president is doing.

This has culminated in the Republican Party releasing the "Mainstream Media Accountability Survey" which asks a series of questions focusing on the alleged shortcomings of the press, naming some media outlets.

Unfortunately for the President, his attacks are having the opposite effect as intended in the wider USA. Voter trust in the media is rising, almost daily, and the Legislature are becoming increasingly alarmed at his rhetoric.

Though he is polling better among his own party than some predecessors were at the same time including Bush and Reagan, Mr Trump’s overall approval rating remains lower than that of every other president soon after inauguration, at least since polling data became available in 1945. The main difference is that Mr Trump’s approval ratings among non-Republicans are much lower than other presidents.

Most tellingly, his daily claims that media outlets are failing (NYT especially) is being soundly rebutted by business reports showing the New York Times is showing rapid growth in subscriber numbers and quarterly profitability as well a stock price surge to the highest in 2.5 years.

His refusal to accept even basic facts is not helping his image as balanced and able to accept criticism; in fact, it paints a picture of a man creating his own reality around him in direct opposition to facts, truth and empirical evidence.

Addendum Content & Quotes for Further Reading

Part of the left and right divide comes from where Americans get their information. Last year, Fox News, the top news choice for Trump voters, became the most-watched cable news network on US television, surpassing the sports network ESPN for the first time. Nearly nine in 10 consistently conservative respondents told Pew they trusted Fox News, while only 6 per cent of consistently liberal respondents said the same.

Mainstream news outlets reported on Mr Trump’s low inauguration turnout compared to Mr Obama’s 2009 inauguration. According to a poll that week, fewer than a third of Trump voters agreed that Mr Obama had a larger turnout.

This information gap translates to tangible differences in the opinions US voters hold. In early February, Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway mistakenly said that two Iraqi refugees perpetrated “the Bowling Green massacre”. No Bowling Green massacre ever occurred, a fact that many mainstream news outlets reported, but a majority of Trump voters still told pollsters that the non-existent massacre is why the US needs Mr Trump’s immigration executive order.


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14"I have been as bi-partisan as possible." That's a really big statement... to the point where it sounds like overcompensation. This answer is very biased, and I'm appalled (but not surprised) it is upvoted so highly. – Just Some Old Man – 2018-05-31T20:40:26.570

2while I completely agree on the authoritarian tendencies of Donald Trump, there is really no such thing as non-partisan journalism. Otherwise, there would be no difference between Fox news and CNN. – siamii – 2018-11-23T10:28:13.327

@JustSomeOldMan: Could you please explain how this answer is biased, and which other answer would be more balanced? Your comment basically just reads like "Fake News!". – Eric Duminil – 2021-01-12T21:28:39.570


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– Sam I am says Reinstate Monica – 2017-02-27T05:36:15.247

3This is a good answer but I am not sure about the Impact part. One question is the impact on Trump voters which may be completely different than the impact on non-Trump voters. – Lembik – 2017-02-27T10:28:33.353

12"The Gold Reserve Act outlawed most private possession of gold, forcing individuals to sell it to the Treasury... The act also changed the nominal price of gold from $20.67 per troy ounce to $35." That's an interesting definition of "theft". – Russell Borogove – 2017-03-01T12:03:12.073

42While this is a great answer, I should point out one somewhat hyperbolic argument: "the New York Times [...] has won 119 Pulitzer Prizes; more than any other newspaper organisation on earth" -- the Pulitzer Prizes are awarded only to entities that are located in the USA, so the implicit suggestion that this makes the NYT the most respected newspaper worldwide is not substantiated by this. – Jules – 2017-03-02T00:59:03.947

A majority of Americans, 52%, said they trust the news media over Donald Trump to tell the truth about important issues. Only 37% said they trusted Trump more. is 37% not an extremely high number? I don't know that I have ever trusted the head of a government more than the media. Were the media not always seen as a "neutral-enough" judge? (I could not find the historical numbers on POTUS trust. I only found that trust in media is at a 20 year low.) – boot4life – 2017-06-02T15:39:18.933


While the presumption is that most of the stories are disliked rather than false, note that some of the stories have been false.

  • The New York Times reported that there was a pattern of communications between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian officials. The FBI told the White House that they have not found that. Yes, we only know this from the White House, but that's not true of them. They know if they're telling the truth or lying. So from their perspective, this is an example of a false story. Or they're just plain lying.

  • CNN reported about an allegation that Donald Trump was involved in some kind of a sex act. Buzzfeed went further and posted the allegation itself. Apparently the story was entirely fabricated. CNN's side is that they were reporting on the rumor not the fact. This was undoubtedly frustrating, since the salacious details were published after it was already known that the allegation was false.

  • The Daily Mail reported that Melania Trump used to work as an escort (prostitute). Trump sued and The Daily Mail apologized and paid just under $3 million in damages to Trump to settle the case.

Trump said during the campaign that he felt that the media was too willing to print false information and that there should be better laws. This isn't new.

During the campaign, Trump also used false descriptions of his opponents. For example, calling Jeb Bush "low energy". That's also not new.

By world standards, the United States (US) is very lax against defamation, particularly against public figures. In most countries, the defendant of a slander or libel suit must prove a story true to avoid liability. In the US, the plaintiff must prove a story false to establish liability.

Note that this isn't necessarily the journalists making up stories, as Trump has charged. The more likely explanation is that the sources are misrepresenting the stories. As they are anonymous, no one can cross examine them except the original journalists. The source only needs to convince one journalist and an editor to get published. If the first isn't credulous enough, then perhaps the next will be.

Some people feel that Trump is exceptionally untruthful and that it is therefore fair game to respond in kind. Journalists are not being skeptical enough to prevent this.


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– Sam I am says Reinstate Monica – 2017-02-28T05:11:59.623


Because, contrary to popular but wholly opinionated answer that was already posted:

  1. Americans don't necessarily consider CNN and especially NYT as universally "credible".

    A majority of Americans believe news organizations are too critical of President Trump, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Sunday.

    51% of Americans said the media is too critical of Trump, while 41 percent think news organizations have been fair and objective.

    Note that this is a poll of all Americans.

  2. However, Trump isn't playing to all Americans.

    He's playing to his base.

    The split largely runs along party lines, with Republicans solidly backing Trump's belief that journalists have made up bogus stories in an attempt to damage Trump's presidency.

    Asked if they believe the news media is "exaggerating the problems with the Trump Administration because they are uncomfortable and threatened with the kind of change Trump represents," 89% of Republicans agreed. Overall, the figure falls to 53%, with just 21% of Democrats buying in to the "fake news" claims.

This view of mass media as being partisan and untrustworthy was popular among Republicans well before Trump's entrance to political arena (and accounted for a big reason of popularity of Fox News cable channel, which positioned itself as "not liberal biased" from the start).

Some people on the right associate "Fake News" with things like Walter Durante's whitewashing of Stalin, and Dan Rathergate at CBS; as opposed to some articles on Facebook.

So, Trump is just saying what his base believes.


To further illustrate the fact that Trump is following his voters here, not leading, we have February 14, 2017 Fox News poll conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R); polling both landline and cellphones.

By a slim 45-42 percent margin, more voters say they trust the Trump administration to “tell the public the truth” than the reporters who cover the White House. Ten percent say neither.

The Fox poll last asked a similar question in June 2006. At that time, “news reporters” were more trusted than “government officials” by a 40-25 percent margin, with 26 percent saying neither.

Note the interesting thing: the trust in media is somewhat similar (negligible 42 to 40% drop - within error margin; meaning that Trump didn't have much of an effect).

Note that this is a registered voters poll.

Additionally, the poll results back the first part of my answer, that Republican base - or for that matter, independents - doesn't trust reporters - especially when covering Trump.

There are the expected partisan differences. Eight in 10 Republicans (81 percent) trust the Trump administration more to tell the truth, while roughly the same portion of Democrats trust the media (79 percent). Independents are twice as likely to put their faith in Trump as the press (52-26 percent), while 16 percent say neither.

Almost all Republicans (92 percent) and most independents (74 percent) perceive coverage as tougher on Trump. Some Democrats agree: 42 percent say it’s been tougher, 34 percent easier, and 21 percent the same.


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20Or, rather, Trump is just saying things because his base will believe what he says. He's playing into his own base, for sure. – None – 2017-02-27T01:29:02.460

2@blip - as the answer noted, his base believed that fact long before Trump started saying it or even got into politics. It's not at all the case of them believing something because Trump says so. – user4012 – 2017-02-27T01:35:15.443

35"this is a poll of all Americans" - I wouldn't mind seeing proof of this. I find it extremely hard to believe that all American's would take any given poll... – Shadow – 2017-02-27T02:23:57.917

14Regarding your reported poll result: "Too critical" is very different from "fake news". In the former case, you emphasize (trhuthful) negative information; in the latter, you actually make things up. By using a poll result that states one thing to make the case for something else, you are muddying the waters. Which is something that is happening a lot, these days... – Floris – 2017-02-27T13:50:35.817

This answer should be more explicit in what their goals are. For example if it's to strengthen his base for re-election in 2020, that should be stated. – Z. Cochrane – 2017-02-27T17:34:19.440

@zabeus - to generally earn political capital. I don't think there's one specific narrow goal beyond that, nor there is proof of some nefarious goal that left wing answer above made up. – user4012 – 2017-02-27T17:35:38.207

6@shadow I think he means that the poll was intended to represent all demographics and all political affiliations, rather than singling one out. This is apparent because of how he contrasted that to the opinions of his base. – Sam I am says Reinstate Monica – 2017-02-28T05:16:43.977

3I don't doubt that's what he meant but this is a poll of all Americans has very clear connotations. If that is not what he meant to say, then he should update the statement to say what he meant to say. – Shadow – 2017-02-28T09:50:25.103

10"perceive coverage as tougher on Trump": The poll doesn't address the elephant in the room: "Is the tougher coverage justified?" No other president in modern history has lied with the frequency that Trump does, often with easily disprovable statements. In fact, often he is on record in video contradicting himself. A Google search for "Trump lies since inauguration" yields 11,600,000 results. Pick your source. – jalynn2 – 2017-02-28T14:21:32.293

3I would prefer to see a poll by an organisation who don't have a vested interest in a particular result. – Separatrix – 2017-02-28T15:23:35.097

1@Separatrix - please read the actual asnwer. The poll was specifically done by a combination of D and R leaning polling outfits, disclosing both the methodology and the full set of questions. – user4012 – 2017-02-28T17:04:14.490

@Separatrix - http://www.weeklystandard.com/new-fox-poll-tilts-democratic/article/567585 for details about polling outfit.

– user4012 – 2017-02-28T17:06:34.740

4@user4012, ignoring the fact that telephone poll respondents are self-selecting (who has time for that sort of thing) which will bias the result to people who like taking part in such things. You should perhaps include that 55% of respondents want the press to cover the president aggressively. – Separatrix – 2017-03-01T08:17:16.817

3Also that 45/42% split has an error margin of 3% – Separatrix – 2017-03-01T08:22:53.220

4Best, most objective answer I've read, by far. He's probably saying it because he thinks it's true, as do many Americans, and he's making a big deal out of it because he thinks it's a big deal, as do many Americans. – DCShannon – 2017-03-02T01:29:06.733

2He does not believe it's true for one second. Trump is on record going against every right-wing staple value. He was a registered Democrat, he was anti-guns, he was pro socialised healthcare. Trump is an opportunist and I don't believe for one second he believes his own statements. – Venture2099 – 2017-03-02T08:13:15.997

@Venture2099 - nowhere in my answer did I say anything about his beliefs. He acts as if he believes it, which is sufficient. – user4012 – 2017-03-02T12:20:33.513

1I don't think he does believe it. I was responding to @DCShannon; the comment directly above mine. – Venture2099 – 2017-03-02T12:37:54.407


As an outsider to the whole "US media bias" debacle - and a foreigner - I believe that all the answers miss at least three important factors:

  1. Information is power. If political system of any country is based upon voter casting his vote the importance of the voter to be adequately informed then it is of utmost importance to make sure the information is true and full. One can do all kinds of shenanigans with facts (or images or statements) so that they are facially true, but factually (or contextually) false. And if only there were instances in US history when press (or wider: mass media) fabricated news in order to gain power/influence/money from it...

  2. Majority of US Media present itself as unbiased, neutral source of information. Opinions aside, this is demonstrably false across the journalistic scene. There is nothing wrong with being biased or non-neutral - I don't think it's even possible not to be so - except when one consciously and intentionally says one is unbiased while going way out of one's way to distort the information being transferred in order to benefit one's preferences.

  3. US media - notwithstanding long traditions of high standards of journalism in general - instead of being the witness and monitor the social and political scenes are active players on those scenes. Once again - there's nothing wrong with that provided that is known to the public opinion. One can comfortably and in detail prove that reverse is true: that almost all major American media practice partisanship (sometimes to the extreme), while paying - albeit loudly - but only lip service to journalistic standards they purportedly embrace.

There was and is a qualitative and quantitative difference in the attention and depth the mass media dedicate to investigate things connected to - and I'm applying the terms widely - Left and Right in the US, with the latter getting majority of it, up to and including information that is obviously and provably untrue. Since Trump was on the receiving end of this bias for most of his campaign and as it mostly backfired then (I argue one of the factors that allowed him to win was the mentioned general bias of mass media against him) it is expected to work now (that is: after elections).

Success of any Administration is made or broken with information transfer; if that's distorted then said Administration can face huge problems. So at least someone grasps the problem: hostile media is bad, and as long as the principle of this hostility is "#NotMyPresident-because-I-don't-like-him-because-he's-not-fitting-inside-my-reality" benefits of being confrontational outweigh costs.

I would like to point out that this is not American phenomenon. This happens everywhere, and I can definitely say that in US it's more skilfully done (if not more subtly - Americans have virtually no experience with government controlled media thus do not parse propaganda well, so there's no need for subtlety) than in a lot of other countries. In some of them journalists are sometimes so brazen that they literally lie with straight faces while being live on air and when later called on it either ignore that or deny the fact.

Last note: I'm not bothered by, for example, Conway "making up Bowling green massacre", same as I'm not bothered by Clinton's "Sarajevo landing under sniper fire". While it may denote some trends one should be wary of, there is Grand Canyon of a difference between those and what, for example, Jonathan Gruber said about Obamacare and it's implementers, including Obama himself. And the way ot was handled by mass media is as telling as the fact itself.

Some numbers to prop up my "rant":

  1. Sep 12, 2017 - 91 percent of recent network Trump coverage has been negative - Washington Post

  2. Dec 27 2017 - Pew: Trump media three times more negative than for Obama, just 5 percent positive - Washington Examiner

  3. Mar 6, 2018 - Broadcast coverage of President Trump still 90% negative - Washington Times

This article on NPR even visualizes this problem - that Trump's coverage is unrelentingly negative. And it is ranging from 3 to 80 times worse than in Obama's case.


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2I think you'll find most new coverage of Jeffrey Dahmer would be perceived as negative. Does that indicate a bias against him? Or is it related to how his actions compare to societal and historical norms? Your numbers only "support" your rant if you make the assumption that all Presidents are equally neutral in their words and deeds. This forced equivalency as a metric for judging supposed bias is more "false" than their claims of objectivity. – PoloHoleSet – 2019-11-04T16:42:34.347

1"Majority of US Media present itself as unbiased, neutral source of information. Opinions aside, this is demonstrably false across the journalistic scene." Source/Cite evidence of demonstration? – Venture2099 – 2017-03-01T17:40:29.763

3@Venture2099 Go to CNN or Fox News and ready any article even vaguely related to politics. – DCShannon – 2017-03-02T01:33:40.190

3@Venture2099 - Example: go find material on Jonathan Gruber Congressional hearing in which CNN or other big media cover it on their air time. Might save you the trouble - there's nothing to find. SUre, you will find plenty of him apologizing or saying "Obamacare largely works", as well as articles covering his running at the mouth. But then - silence. And this modus operandi repeats over and over with Obama(s), Clinton(s), Dems(s) and so on. Curiously, reverse is not true - Trump is being honored with bashing over everything everywhere for indecent lengths sometimes. – None – 2017-03-02T09:37:39.283

2@AcePL you are generalizing an entire industry. Poor reasoning and not indicative of the US Media. – Venture2099 – 2017-03-02T10:20:03.453


The question title says the NYT is "reputable." That's debatable. There is a long laundry list of reasons to disagree. I'll look in depth at one -- their coverage of the Duke Lacrosse Rape Hoax.

Here is the worst of the worst of their coverage. Keep in mind that this article was written four months after it was publicly known that there was ATM video of defendant Reade Seligmann a mile away at the time of the alleged crime. Yet the NYT wrote that:

an examination of the entire 1,850 pages of evidence . . . yields a more ambiguous picture. It shows that while there are big weaknesses in Mr. Nifong’s case, there is also a body of evidence to support his decision to take the matter to a jury.

What, exactly, is "ambiguous?" Was there doubt that it was Seligmann in the video? Alternatively, did he tamper with the ATM's clock? And if so, did he also tamper with the electronic footprint of his ATM transaction -- bank records and so forth?

If you go to the NYT article, and search for the word "video" or "ATM" or "teller", you come up empty. So the NYT, which supposedly examined the "entire 1,850 pages of evidence" manages to write a 5,600 word article claiming that the picture was "ambiguous", while not mentioning precisely the evidence that proves it was not ambiguous in the slightest. Their story was torn apart that same day on multiple widely-read blogs, e.g. here and here. Yet the NYT, even 8 months later, was claiming that it had "generally reported both sides."

Still later, when prosecutor Mike Nifong was disbarred, the NYT wrote about it as a "surprise". Even as late as September, 2007, the NYT was changing an AP story in a way that created an appearance of ambiguity when there was none.

And keep in mind, all of this is just from the NYT's coverage of the Duke hoax. It's the same thing, year in and year out -- the NYT will selectively omit critical evidence that flies in the face of whatever conclusion they want you to believe. One could just as easily tear apart their non-coverage of Hillary Clinton's violation of 18 u.s.c. 793, paragraph (d). They kept on leading their readers to believe that "intent" was necessary to prove a crime. But look at the paragraph. Intent is not mentioned or required.

Examples like these are the reasons why plenty of Republicans do not consider the NYT to be a reputable source.

The leap from that to "Fake News" is obviously an exaggeration. But that's something Donald Trump does really well -- take a reality, then exaggerate it in a way that is memorable and lends itself to being talked about.

William Jockusch

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The accusations of liberal media bias are not new. The first credible confirmation of it was the documented cases in Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News. And while it was often defended as simply glamorization of news for the sake of ratings (a modern equivalent would be link-baiting), the book's account has never been discredited as inaccurate.

The hysteria over Trump has been particularly telling though. And the fact that the news are proudly wearing their anti-Trump rhetoric on their sleeves is just as telling. Probably the most telling example of it is the accusations of Nazi sympathies back in the days when he was still running. They were made by media personalities (mostly situated in New York City) who were fully aware of Trump's personal history. So they knew that he was a loving and supporting father of a daughter who converted to Judaism (and of her Orthodox Jewish husband). The accusations of white-supremacism against a conservative website Breitbart (most of whose editorial staff is Jewish) were also laughable at best (and anti-semitic at worst). In fact, Trump is the only President in the US history to receive as many accusations of Fascism, white-supremacism, etc. from the media. At the same time, he is the only sitting US President who has more Jewish grandchildren than non-Jewish ones (to be honest, I don't know if Donald Jr.'s wife is Jewish, but if she is not, his children would be the President's only non-Jewish grandchildren).

The overall bar for accusations among the "mainstream" media against anyone supporting Trump seems to be that if there are any rumors or hearsay it is sufficient evidence to report. While the facts presented by the administration in its defense are often not reported despite being a matter of record. This stark distinction in the two standards for evidence is not only infuriating to the Trump supporters. It's also not lost on any fair-minded neutral observers. Arguably, it also merits the label "fake news".


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Two possibilities - One is that they are putting out misleading, biased or slanted information, and Trump wants to be assessed on actual facts, not misleading mud-slinging.

Two is that they are putting out information that is factually accurate, so he needs to try and create a cloud of doubt, chaos and/or confusion because those facts would not bode well for him if people believed them.


Posted 2017-02-26T01:36:04.987

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The role of the press is to report facts, not to give their opinions. The reader should be left to determine the conclusion of the facts. But, readers assume that what they are reading is true. If the "facts" given are false, or partially false, then the reader may be making conclusions that aren't supported by the real facts. This is labelled as "fake news." It's propaganda, or information given by an organization to form public opinion based on how the organization WANTS the public to think.

Editorial opinions, other the other hand, write "op-eds" to give their opinions. The reader can agree with the writer or not.


Posted 2017-02-26T01:36:04.987

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I assume you realise that all sides of every debate in history have used disinformation to persuade. CNN is fake news. Fox News is also fake news. Everything is fake news in as much that everything is the presentation of the truth through the lens of human bias. So calling something fake news is a statement of the obvious.

So why does Trump use the term so much?

Trump continually and proudly uses the term “fake news” simply because, like his supporters, he delights in the fact that it was the Clinton campaign and the leftist media themselves who first started using the term (in recent history) back in the fall of 2016 while concurrently indulging in it themselves.

The exact sequencing of use between the Clinton campaign and leftist media is unclear because, as Wikileaks showed, the lines between media and political organisations are themselves blurred.

The entire leftist politico-media complex used the term and indulged in the manufacture of it at fever pitch into the early weeks of 2017 to discredit Trump’s win and later undermine his policy choices.

Finally, after months of use against him, in January 2017 Trump hit back by starting to use the term himself, thereby calling out the hypocrisy.

This incensed the Left because Trump had successfully taken a weapon directed by them, turned it around and transformed it into a device to rally his base.

Later in 2017, CNN would run a bizarre advert stating “this is an apple” and the leftist Washington Post would call for an end to the use of the term, appearing to miss the irony.

Propaganda and disinformation (“fake news”) has been used since the dawn of time.

Both sides know this.

Trump uses the term because it is absolutely true, because it is like catnip to his political opponents, because it rallies his base and because it is hilariously funny.


Posted 2017-02-26T01:36:04.987

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