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The haze in Singapore causes problems for the capitalist economic system. The forest fires in Indonesia cause the haze in Singapore. The forest fires in Indonesia are caused by the greed inherent in the capitalist economic system. So the capitalist economic system is inherently self-defeating.

Is this argument valid?

Name Withheld

Posted 2016-03-03T07:59:25.250

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There's a verb change from "causes" to "is". Is that intentional? – virmaior – 2016-03-04T10:39:49.673

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I think you're missing some premises.

  1. The haze in Singapore causes problems for the capitalist economic system. (Premise)
  2. The haze in Singapore is caused by the capitalistic system. (Premise)
  3. If the haze in Singapore causes problems for the capitalist economic system and the haze in Singapore is caused by the capitalist economic system, then the capitalist economic system is self-defeating. (Premise)
  4. The haze in Singapore causes problems for the capitalist economic system and the haze in Singapore is caused by the capitalist economic system. (conjunction intro 1, 2)
  5. Therefore, the capitalist economic system is self-defeating. (conditional elimination 3, 4)

That argument is valid. But I question its soundness. Someone else has also queried the truth of (1) and (2), but I'm also worried about (3). Maybe capitalism causes some problems and solves others and the magnitude of the solutions is greater than the magnitude of the new problems introduced. That would suggest that capitalism is limited in that it can't provide some solutions without introducing other problems, but not that it is utterly self-defeating.

user5172

Posted 2016-03-03T07:59:25.250

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The argumentation is a bit simple because none of these problems is monocausal.

But of course the capitalist system creates problems which affect the participants of the capitalist system and a lot of uninvolved people.

Jo Wehler

Posted 2016-03-03T07:59:25.250

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As do all other political and economic systems. So if the question is meant to be an argument against capitalism, it is highly specious. – Bumble – 2016-03-03T14:24:24.367

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Well, I would argue you are 'picking' on capitalism. The more neutral axiom to argue is that 'Civilization' is a dying process of intelligent life. Under that proposition if you are able to escape earth bound institutional society humanity has as a slight chance to avoid the inevitable.

PS, it has never been (can not be) proven that Civilizations do not end, and never gracefully.

Ari Lea

Posted 2016-03-03T07:59:25.250

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