After the web, where is the next place to start searching?

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I've done a lot of research on websites but I'm not sure where to go from here. I assume the next step is to contact the organizations the kept the records (churches, government/municipality, etc.) but I'm not sure how to find the right place to contact and I'm not sure how or what to ask. I don't think its as simple as "Do you have a birth certification for John Smith", or is it?

Websites that have been searched:

  • Ancestry.com

  • familysearch.org

  • geneanet.org

Justin808

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3Much too general a question with no right answer, but I'll try answering it generically anyway. The people will decide whether this question should stay open or not. – lkessler – 2012-10-10T23:46:25.403

I hope Justin will help us improve this question by adding some specifics and context. As written, the question assumes some relevant information is conveyed by "searching Ancestry.com" or a "searching FamilySearch.org," etc. It assumes we have knowledge of all the information available from "the web" (all sources from all locations). In reality, most of us don't set out to memorize a full online catalogs or full web content. Can you help us, Justin, with some specifics? – GeneJ – 2012-10-12T14:44:11.780

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The LDS church has tasked themselves with the burden of filming (and evenutally indexing and making available on the web) every public accessible record with genealogical importance still available in the world. Their collection of microfilms is staggering in its scope and growing continuously. What you find available at the Family Search website is just the tip of the iceberg of what's available on microfilm.

The catalog of their microfilm collection is available on-line. Once you locate a microfilm that may have information of interest to you, you can go to the nearest LDS church and fill out a request, and within days that microfilm will be available. You do have to use the microfilm at the LDS location, where there are research rooms set aside with computers, microfilm readers and usually items of local genealogical interest. There is a small charge to get the microfilm, but no charge to use it, and there is no requirement to be a member of the LDS to use this service.

Using this approach you can "virtually" visit court houses and town halls and state and national archives in many jurisdictions around the world. It is the eventual goal of the LDS to get all this information fully indexed and available on-line, but this is a never ending, monumental task. Until then the next best thing is scrolling through microfilms. This is getting to be a lost art, but one that can still prove serendipitous.

Tom Wetmore

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Genealogy and Family History was around way before the web was.

Go to your library and read some introductory books on genealogy. They will tell you how to do research and where you can look.

The number one place before you go anywhere else, though, are your oldest relatives. They'll have information that you won't get anywhere else which can provide you with places, family members, pictures and stories that you'd never have discovered otherwise.

Records and websites can wait. Talk to your oldest relatives first, before they forget and before they pass on.

lkessler

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This part I've done but I'm to the point where I want to start getting sources to backup what I've been told. My searches have come up empty so far though. – Justin808 – 2012-10-18T07:41:27.060

It's detective work. Use the clues to lead to other clues. – lkessler – 2012-10-18T12:41:36.020

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There's no single answer to this question, so here are some additional suggestions beyond what's already been posted:

  • Google. Too many people don't make enough use of Google. Want to know how to get New York vital records? Search for "New York vital records" and you'll get a ton of hits. Same thing for any other state/province/country/etc. Try the same for other types of records too.

  • Online forums. There are many genealogy mailing lists and discussion forums, where you can ask specific questions and get help from experienced researchers. For example, Ancestry.com, RootsWeb, Genforum, JewishGen all have mailing lists or forums. Of course, we also have this great StackExchange site now!

  • Genealogy link compendiums. These provide a categorized database of genealogy-related websites. Some websites have actual records, other websites contain information about how to obtain records. Cyndi's List is a very popular one. Linkpendium is another.

  • Online tutorials. Some websites have online tutorials or guides to doing genealogy research. For example, FamilySearch's Learn site and JewishGen's InfoFiles.

  • Webinars. These are online presentations that are available on all sorts of genealogy topics. See the GeneaWebinars website for upcoming topics and schedules.

efgen

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The value of a genealogical society cannot be overstated. Often, discussions with others who have been researching family lines (possibly for decades longer than you) leads you to avenues that you hadn't even considered. The society can often guide you to resources that they only share with members. They may have materials that can only be accessed when you physically walk through their door. They may even have sub-groups that specialize in the areas that you are looking for. So my suggestion for your next steps would be:

  1. Join your local genealogical society.
  2. Start researching the group characteristics and migration patterns of those you are tracing, such as Lutherans from Sweden or Germans from Russia (your genealogical society will really help you here). This may guide you to towns or parishes that you hadn't even considered.
  3. Yes, you can contact or visit records repositories, but first find out what sources they have (your time and theirs will be limited so do prep-work before you go!) so that you can 'help them help you'. When you visit or email, have one or two clear and specific goals to accomplish, otherwise rabbit trails will lead you astray.

Canadian Girl Scout

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I would like to reinforce @CanadianGirlScout 's answer: talking to others doing genealogical research is invaluable in one's growth as a genealogical researcher. You can find such people at local genealogical societies, at regional or national conventions (which can be an eye-opener), and at local LDS family history centers. I've done all three, and learn something every time I do it.

Sometimes you have a targeted question that you can get help on, and sometimes it's just a small, causal remark that can open a whole line of research. Sometimes, it's just the act of explaining your question to someone that makes you reflect on what you had and had not tried.

Online groups are another excellent source of ideas on where and how to look for information after the obvious sources have been exhausted. These groups vary by area, ethnic or cultural identity, etc. Two obvious ones that come to mind are jewishgen and the Italian Genealogical Society; there are obviously many others.

Gene Golovchinsky

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In addition to the other suggestions:

  • You can read genealogy blogs. Doing it through an RSS feeder is very helpful - I get good tips that way.
  • One of the things I would like to do is attend a genealogy conference to learn new research techniques.
  • I knew my grandparents were Episcopalians in a small town so I called the Church there and arranged to meet the Archivist. We went through the parish registers together and I found Baptism and Marriage information for my father's family. It was very exciting going through the old record books. Don't forget to take good digital pictures of the pages and write down all the source information when you find information in person rather than online. They had information from several churches that had merged & even pictures on the walls of the churches back when my ancestors attended church there.
  • If you've found a link to information in the National Archives about War pensions for an ancestor who was injured or died in a War, I've found it's worth the money to request the pension. I've found wife's and children's names this way. Proof can include birth dates and marriage certificate information. Even the name's of the witnesses are informative. It's amazing how much information is included.
  • If you do not have a public tree on a site like Ancestry.com - consider making yours public. I've made wonderful connections that way. Relatives in England and Australia that I never knew existed have been wonderful sources who have not only shared information and stories but also digital copies of records. A distant relative of my husband send me a well-sourced pdf and stories from a reunion (and relatives) we knew nothing about.

Jeni

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