Privacy friendly payment processor

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What is the most reputable Bitcoin payment processor that has privacy friendly terms and conditions? BitPay and Coinbase are known to have used chain analysis to spy on customers. What are the alternatives for reputable merchants who do not approve of this type of privacy violation applied to their customers?

Mary Johnson

Posted 2016-06-01T04:01:30.943

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I'm pretty sure that all crypto payment processors that deal with fiat <-> cryptocurrency exchanges are doing AML/KYC routines including chain analysis. That's not only true for BitPay and Coinbase but Circle et al. too. As soon as you're trying to move value between crypto and fiat you're going to have to deal with different levels of privacy invasions if you're using a payment processor. The exceptions to those KYC/AML routines is either cash <-> crypto transactions (like localbitcoin, mycelium...) or using a crypto currency that can't be traced by (evil) companies like chainalysis.

tl;dr I don't know any non-privacy invading bitcoin payment processor as soon as fiat gets involved.

ps: However I know that there a various people working on new (open-source) cryptocurrency payment processors. I will try to dig out some additional info on those and update my post accordingly.

edit: interesting update on coinbase: https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-helps-fbi-shut-kickasstorrents/

stke

Posted 2016-06-01T04:01:30.943

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"including chain analysis" what makes you say that? Just a pessimistic healthy skepticism or do you have actual data? – Jannes – 2016-06-06T12:15:34.180

I'm not sure if there has been an official statement from any payment processor regarding chain analysis, but Coinbase is known to shut down and freeze funds if someone uses his coinbase account to fund/transfer btc to/from a gambling site. This has been happening since 2014. If you google "coinbase blocking gambling" you'll find lots of posts like these: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=747596.0 / https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1231723.0 / http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3240629-email-coinbase-asking-if-im-using-their-services-gambling-purposes.html

– stke – 2016-06-07T13:51:55.600

Yeah, CoinBase is notorius. I guess I was mostly wondering about "ALL crypto payment processors". There must be some that don't do chainanalisys, maybe? But you're definitely right to always assume the worst. – Jannes – 2016-06-07T15:00:28.310

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You can just accept the cryptocurrencies directly, there are Bitcoin plugins for many shopping carts. The spying and KYC/AML often comes into it because of the fiat side.

Нонн Болдырев

Posted 2016-06-01T04:01:30.943

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You might try Coin Cafe. They do have KYC, but they are smaller so I doubt they have the resources or motivation to track your purchases unless specifically requested to.

Digital Galaxy

Posted 2016-06-01T04:01:30.943

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