Do some languages have articles besides the definite and indefinite articles?

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Most languages have either no articles, or one or both of the definite (akin to English "the") and indefinite (akin to English "a" / "an").

But are there other kinds of articles, and which languages have them?

hippietrail

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Yes there are!

Another common one is the partitive. If you've ever learned a language like French then it's an article you use with mass nouns like "water" or "cake". In English the closest would be something like "some" as in "Would you like some cake?". Occasionally you'll see it written by linguists as "sm", as it is phonologically reduced in speech.

Here are some examples from French:

  • Je ne bois pas de café.
  • Je n'ai pas de temps à perdre.
  • Donne-moi de la glace.

I'm sure there are probably others!

LaurenG

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1Yes, it's partitive, not partative.Philip Seyfi 2011-09-14T09:35:53.487

1Please add some of the actual such articles from French or any other language from which you know them (-:hippietrail 2011-09-13T22:07:04.973

I think what she had in mind is, for example: Je ne bois pas de café. / Je n'ai pas de temps à perdre. / Donne-moi de la glace.Philip Seyfi 2011-09-13T22:41:11.360

1Your first two examples do not really list partitive articles, do they? The partitive articles are "du" in masculine and "des" or "de l'" in plural. I guess you can argue that the partitive article has a negative counterpart, "de" (even though I would say this is just a special use of the preposition "de" :D)dainichi 2012-05-17T01:57:46.420

isn't it called the partitive?Louis Rhys 2011-09-14T06:22:04.850

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It is worth noting, I think, that "article" is not a theoretical primitive in (most if not all) contemporary generative theories of syntax. A generative syntactician would say that languages have larger or smaller inventories of determiners (e.g. this, that; this is the category from which the developed) and quantifiers (e.g. one, many, no; this is the category from which a(n) developed). However, articles are a notion of classical grammar and are definitionally restricted to the definite and indefinite.

(Some grammarians might include more kinds of articles, as the Wikipedia article on articles does. But this reflects more a taxonomic whim of the analyst than a fact about language.)

Aaron

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Yes that's true, determiners do seem to be a more satisfactory category. Nonetheless I'm still interested in the analyses or traditional treatments of many languages which talk about articles, whether any do include other types.hippietrail 2011-09-14T07:59:11.137

I actually asked a followup question based on this answer. A few years ago already: Does Japanese have determiners?

hippietrail 2014-05-22T00:03:00.497

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Don't forget the demonstratives. Old Church Slavic had a definite article (i), a proximal or 'this here' demonstrative (sej), a distal or 'that over there' demonstrative (on), and a simple 'this/that' demonstrative (tъ).

Bill Sullivan

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Ah this makes sense since another name for for Old Church Slavonic is Old Bulgarian and modern Bulgarian does have something very similar.hippietrail 2011-10-11T08:09:16.183

3I know definite articles generally if not always evolve from demonstratives, but are demonstratives considered to be articles?hippietrail 2011-09-13T23:22:38.187

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By some accounts, "no" is considered an article, distinct from definite and indefinite. To me it affects the reference in a very different way than the other two ("a couch," "the couch," "no couch"), but I know none of the proper linguistic theory on the matter.

tdhsmith

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2Yes "kein" is often listed in paradigms in German I've noticed.hippietrail 2011-09-13T22:22:45.070

wouldn't it best be considered a quantifier?James Tauber 2011-09-18T16:25:09.753

@JamesTauber Probably. As some others discussed, 'article' isn't really a common term in academic linguistics, and as such it overlaps with several other more rigorous terms, like quantifier and determiner.tdhsmith 2011-09-19T04:32:50.133

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Some languages also have a zero article (i.e., they have overt articles, but can omit them). In English, for example, you can say "I saw turtles on the beach", whereas in French you would have to add the indefinite plural article: "J'ai vu des tortues sur la plage".

grautur

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Ah yes you found a nice technical loophole I knew about but wasn't thinking about when I posed my question (-:hippietrail 2011-09-14T08:00:09.060

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Catalan has personal articles used with person names, e.g., en Pere "Peter" as opposed to el/un noi "the/a boy".

Atamiri

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As Bill Sullivan noted - The demonstratives in Slavic languages can evolve to articles. One example is Macedonian (and perhaps western Bulgarian dialects):

One feature that has no parallel in any other standard Balkan language is the existence of three definite articles pertaining to position of the object: unspecified, proximate (or close) and distal (or distant).

Romanian has something called Genitival article (which is nothing extraordinary - just an article in genitive)

The wikipedia article about "article" lists: definite, indefinite, partitive, negative.

Bozho

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Yes indeed I am travelling now and having arrived in Macedonia I read about this in Wikipedia and thought it would make a good test question to ask in a wide open way. I thought if Macedonian has some extra one what other languages might?hippietrail 2011-09-14T08:02:01.063

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Creoles tends to have three ways of marking noun phrases for definiteness:

  • definite, for already known, specific information ({the} in English)

  • indefinite, for new, unknown but still specific information ({a/an} in English)

  • not specific, usually unmarked (also {a/an} in English, or unmarked)

The first time you mention something you mark it indefinite, later you use the definite marker and if it is not specific or important you use the third option. Naturally I can't remember the reference for it (book used in grammaticalization-class I think) but apparently there can be two types of nonspecificness too, for new and old nonspecific information: In such a system "dogs bark but foxes bark too" the nouns would be marked differently. IIRC no more than three of the four possibilities are marked in any one language though.

Then there are the languages with only one article of course... or none, but opinions differ on whether all languages always mark definiteness (needn't be with an article!) or not.

For those interested in definiteness there's the book "Definiteness" by Christopher Lyons. I haven't read it myself as I'm not very interested in the subject. The other books I have read in the series it is part of though, Cambridge Textbooks in Linguistics, have never disappointed even though of course some linguists just can't write and needs to be read in small doses lest your eyeballs bleed ;)

kaleissin

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Yes one point of asking my question was whether definiteness is the only concept that articles can address. I would love if you can find and include some examples in your answer.hippietrail 2011-09-14T20:48:39.670

Can you provide an example from a Creole with three different articles like the ones you describe?jknappen 2017-10-05T15:03:27.663

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I just came across some info trying to learn a bit about Albanian in Albania.

Albanian has a kind of article called an "adjectival article".

I haven't been able to find out much about them though so I've asked a question about them.

hippietrail

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Basque has a definite article that could be taken as special in some ways:

-It is an affix -There are no nude Basque NPs, and the affix definte article is added to the NP is no other determiner or quantifier appears -The so-called definite article also appears in predicates, i.e. in phrases with no referential value.

Juan Carlos Odriozola Pereira

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I don't understand, what is the article you're talking about?Alenanno 2012-03-29T14:59:10.603