What does っつの mean?

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I recently saw 冗談だっつの. What does it っつの mean, or how does it modify the meaning of a sentence?

Louis

Posted 2011-06-16T19:15:30.113

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っつ (sometimes つう) is a slang version of という (or an alternate version like といった, depending on the context). It's extremely informal.

冗談【じょうだん】だっつの。 (=冗談だ【じょうだん】といったの。) I said I was joking. [Idiomatically: Chill out, I was just kidding.]

彼【かれ】はやめたいっつってんだから、やめさせてやりゃいいじゃん。 (=彼【かれ】はやめたいといっているんだから、やめさせてやればいいじゃない。) He's saying he wants to quit, so why not let him?

まぁ、なんつうかさ、ちょっとまずいっすね。 (=まぁ、なんというかさ、ちょっとまずいですね。) Well, it's…what should I say…kind of a bad situation.

Derek Schaab

Posted 2011-06-16T19:15:30.113

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Got it, thanks. That's quite the leap there. I like how it can even assume different tenses. – Louis – 2011-06-16T20:15:30.020

I always thought っつって came about by (jokingly) pronouncing the っ in って and inserting new っ along the way: だって → だつて → だっつって. At least that's how I picked it up. :-3 Any evidence for or against that theory? – deceze – 2011-06-16T23:08:28.103

2@deceze: って and っつって mean different things, and therefore it is natural to consider that って did not arise by pronouncing the little っ in って (unless further evidence for the theory exists). っつって is a very informal contraction of って言って (which itself is a little informal form of と言って). – Tsuyoshi Ito – 2011-06-17T01:57:07.463

2While we're on this subject, it's worth pointing out that the entire いる part of 言っている gets dropped sometimes: なにいってんだ?=なにをいっているんだ?. This is why っつってん expands to といっているん, as Tsuyoshi mentioned. – Derek Schaab – 2011-06-17T13:19:00.507

I don't see this mentioned here, and unfortunately I'm not sure how to write it, but is this convo related to "なんっつて"?-just kidding!? – yadokari – 2011-10-03T15:57:15.363

1@yadokari: I imagine なんつって comes from なんかいって, since it's often used to mark speech without an exact wording. (In English, the best parallel is the slang expression, "He was like, '[statement]'.") The alternate use of なんつって to mean "Just kidding!" might be a masculine version of the somewhat feminine なんていっちゃって, which is shortened to なんちゃって. – Derek Schaab – 2011-10-03T16:22:41.270

sounds about right – yadokari – 2011-10-03T16:24:20.350