When is "seems to be" used instead of "seems"?

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  1. The baby seems happy/comfortable.
  2. The baby seems to be happy/comfortable.

Are these both correct? If both are correct, what are the differences between them?

Azahar Ali

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Related: Differences between Verb + to be + adjectives and Verb + adjective

– CowperKettle – 2016-01-17T13:07:50.013

i.e. duplicate @Copper. – M.A.R. – 2016-01-17T13:09:46.653

@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. No - it's on another site. – StoneyB on hiatus – 2016-01-17T13:23:23.207

@Stoney I know, and that's the only thing that disallows closure. – M.A.R. – 2016-01-17T13:29:02.950

@StoneyB, Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I'm not sure that there's no difference, especially in terms of usage and implication. We can freely use the second when we have the information secondhand from someone else or some other source. However, the first strongly implies, to me at least, that you witnessed his state of happiness directly. – Araucaria - Not here any more. – 2016-01-17T16:46:40.400

@Araucaria mmm ... but to me so does 2. I think it's more a matter of the topic: "The Saudis seem ready to continue oil production indefinitely" doesn't suggest 'witnessing' with or without to be. – StoneyB on hiatus – 2016-01-17T17:00:59.480

@StoneyB (2) does to me too, but it would be by far my first choice if I'd got the information second hand from other people who'd been writing reports on his well-being, for example. – Araucaria - Not here any more. – 2016-01-17T17:03:57.487

1@Araucaria I'd prolly say "It seems that the baby's happy" in those circumstances. So there! – StoneyB on hiatus – 2016-01-17T17:05:50.170

@StoneyB IT complicated that seem stuff! – Araucaria - Not here any more. – 2016-01-17T17:06:56.643

@Araucaria Very interesting input about the use of seem to be for secondhand knowledge. I have that feeling about it too (although, being a non-native speaker, it doesn't count as an important feeling), maybe because the use of two copulas in "A seems to be B" indicates that the statement "A is B" had existed before the new one was made. I mean, maybe it's the copula in the pre-existing statement "A is B" that transfers and changes into *be* in "A seems to be B", and that's what makes it sound like secondhand information. – Færd – 2016-04-23T12:17:58.160

I suggest changing the tags of this question to "phrase-choice" and "linking-verbs" (and renoving "infinitive" which seems to be irrelevant). – laugh salutes Monica C – 2016-04-24T04:41:39.750

Well, it's relevant in that seem can take either a predicative complement (happy) or a to-infinitival clausal complement embedding that same predicative complement (to be happy). Might as well add the other tags, though :-) – snailplane – 2016-04-24T11:30:33.557

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Seem used as a link verb can be followed by an adjective,to be +an adjective,

You seem (to be )angry with something,

noun phrases,

She seems (to be) a nice girl.

infinitives,

They seem to have made a mistake.

like,

The village seems (like) a nice place for a holiday.

that- and if-clauses.

It seems as if the night is never going to end.

With there seem(s) to be is used.

There seem to be a lot of mistakes.There seems to be some problem.

Seem and seem to be are interchangeable in most cases and the difference is not always clear-cut. It often depends on whether we are mentioning objective facts or expressing our subjective ideas.It depends on what you want to say.

The bus seems to be full.(It is true. It really is. ).

According to the experts, the building seems to be one hundred years old.(We trust the experts).

It seems crazy,but I think I am in love with him.(My subjective impression)

She seems sleepy.(I think so.)

She seems to be sleepy. (Look at her!)

V.V.

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If you use there then seem, should be seem(s). – Sam Harrington – 2016-04-21T15:39:20.067

Saying seems to for things that are obvious is so ridiculous. I find it as the most stupid way to speak and express – diegoaguilar – 2018-12-31T13:17:37.013

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STRAIGHT TO THE POINT - SHORT ANSWER -

The baby seems happy/comfortable.

The baby seems to be happy/comfortable.

They both are correct, and there is no difference in meaning.


DIGGING DEEPER - EXPLANATION -

We will discuss here this structure - X copular verb Y.

At this very beginning we will discuss two types of Copular Clauses - one is Ascriptive and the other is Specifying.

1. Sam [THEME] was hungry [PROPERTY].

2. Robin [VARIABLE] was the tallest of them [VALUE].

In Ascriptive use, as in sentence #1 the Predicative Complement (PC) ascribes the property or the characteristics of the subject. On the other hand in the Specifying use, as in sentence #2, the PC helps to specify or identify the subject.

At times they are ambiguous, that means they can be explained both as Ascriptive use and Specifying use.

The victim is Kim's sister.

In specifying use, the victim is identified as Kim's sister. In ascriptive use, it only says the victim is the sister of Kim, now imagine that Kim has more than one sister,it doesn't say which sister of Kim is the victim. So it's in that situation an ascriptive use. (In specifying use it implies that Kim has only one sister.)

The verb - be - can license both ascriptive PC and specifying PC, whereas other copular verbs can license only the ascriptive PC. If other copular verbs license to-infinitive clause the limitation can be overcome with the use of to be before a Specifying PC.

It was Max. [The verb - be - can take a specifying PC]

!It seemed Max [INCORRECT - because the copular verb - seem - can't take a specifying PC]

And it can be overcome with the use of to be -

It seemed to be Max.

But the use of to be after seem is not restricted to only the situation where we need a specifying PC. As seem can license a to-infinitive, we can use optional to be even before an ascriptive PC. But notice the difference, in the ascriptive use, the use of to be is optional, but in case of specifying use the use of to be is obligatory.

In OP's examples the AdjPs - happy or comfortable - denotes a property, and nothing but Ascriptive PCs in those sentences. So the use of to be after the verb - seem - is optional.


Now that we know when to use to be after seem optionally and when to use it obligatorily, let's focus on what extra meaning to be adds, if at all.

Most of the times there is no difference in meaning between seem to be and seem, but seem to be is preferred when we mean something that appears to be definitely true (objective facts). On the other hand seem without to be is preferred when it's based on personal feeling (subjective impression).

For example -

The doctors have done all the tests, and he definitely seems to be insane.

It seems insane, but I think I'm in love with the postman. [NOT It seems to be insane]

Man_From_India

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-1 There is no valid reason why It seemed Max is ungrammatical. Rare, perhaps, outdated probably, but not yet ungrammatical. – Alan Carmack – 2016-05-30T14:57:23.140

2@AlanCarmack I don't get much time to spare currently. But I do notice that you made a very good point. Perhaps you have something more easily explainable in your mind. Perhaps you could elaborate on it. But when I hear it seemed Max I expect something else to follow and complete the sentence. I want to know why you claim it's not ungrammatical. Can you please provide sentences from older texts that's properly edited? Basically just stating that it's grammatical in older usage is not that helpful. Support your claim with good references. Thanks. – Man_From_India – 2016-05-30T16:31:54.917

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The boy seems (to be) happy/comfortable

When you use the word 'seem' as a linking verb (copular) followed by a gradable adjective, say happy or comfortable, you can use the 'seem' with or without 'to be', without any difference in meaning.

You can also use the verb seem with or without 'to be' when it's followed by a noun phrase having an adjective such as:

He seems (to be) a nice man.

The use of the seem without to be is more common in the cases stated above.

However, you use to be after seem when a noun phrase follows a determiner without an adjective, for example:

He seems to be the owner of this house.

As for non gradable adjectives such as asleep, alone, alive, etc., you usually use 'to be" after 'seem'. For example:

He seems to be asleep.

Besides, you use 'to be' after the 'seem' when it's followed by an -ing form. For example:

He seems to be having breakfast at the moment.

However, you don't use to be when the seem is followed by a clause with that, like, or as if/as though. For examples:

It seems (that) he'll go to London tomorrow.

It seems like you are catching a cold.

It seems as if/as though you don't have enough money.

Khan

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I learn such great things about my own language here! As a corollary, I'm trying to use non-gradable adjectives in your last sentence. "The baby seems alone to me," sounds strange, and "The baby seems asleep to me," almost as bad, whereas "The baby looks to me like she's asleep," is far more natural. – CynicallyNaive – 2016-04-17T05:49:30.577

CynicallyNaive, your sentence is not only natural but also easy on the ear. – Khan – 2016-04-17T10:42:49.150

@CynicallyNaive what about the non gradable adjective - enough? seem enough and seem to be enough both are okay I think. – Man_From_India – 2016-04-21T04:28:33.557

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Here is another non-gradable adjective: impossible. Is impossible gradable? I think most, if not all, grammar books would include it in their non-gradable adjectives. Which do you think is more common: It seems impossible or It seems to be impossible? Here is a relevant Google Ngram chart: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=seems+impossible%2Cseems+to+be+impossible&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cseems%20impossible%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cseems%20to%20be%20impossible%3B%2Cc0.

– Damkerng T. – 2016-04-23T02:55:44.983

@DamkerngT. Though both are correct, I guess it's context dependent. In my answer I mentioned the difference in meaning, and I think that probably is the reason behind seem impossible to be more common. I really don't buy the idea of gradable-nongradable stuffs here. – Man_From_India – 2016-04-23T04:08:10.337

You said before a NP we can use seem with or without to be. You seem to mean that it is optional there. But consider this sentence - I can't see him clearly from here, but he seems (to be) the great cricketing legend, Imran Khan. Is to be optional there too? – Man_From_India – 2016-04-23T04:29:04.807

-1 It seems adjectives not gradable work fine. – Alan Carmack – 2016-05-30T14:56:10.647

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This question is more intricate than it seems...

"Seem" is one of the copular or linking verbs, which can be used in the same way as the verb "be" (actually "be" is part of this family too). So "the baby is happy", "the baby seems happy", but "the baby smiles happily" ("smile" is not a linking verb). A longer discussion can be found here.

But "seem" is a special copular verb, since it can also be used with "to be" with almost the same meaning; the only other copular verb that can be used this way is (or seems to be) "appear". So, just explaining copular verbs might not tell you the whole story.

Both "seem" and "appear", when used as copulae, suggest an uncertain opinion or observation; they are very useful for discussing something you aren't sure about (as I am doing now!).

Looking at the sentences you provide as example, there seems to be (that is, I think there is) a subtle difference:

The baby seems happy

I read it as "the baby looks happy [to me]"; it suggests a neutral observation, impression or interpretation of how the baby looks - it might be wrong, but it is definitely the speaker's observation.

The baby seems to be happy

I read this as "the baby looks as if he/she is happy [but I suspect that it's not true]"; it suggests some doubt in the speaker's mind - it is more an opinion than an observation.

You can also consider "it seems to be" as a passive way of saying "I think it is"; for example, "John seems to be missing" practically means "I think John is missing" (if John is not present, then saying "he seems missing" doesn't make much sense).

There are cases where the distinction is difficult, since people often state their observations as opinions (as a way of being polite); so you may hear people say "there seems to be a problem...", when they actually mean "there is definitely a problem". Nevertheless, I think this "observation vs. opinion" or "neutrality vs. doubt" is the key to deciding which form to use.

laugh salutes Monica C

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"seems to be happy" is the original formula. "to be" is mostly dropped because "to be" does not achieve much.

rogermue

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