"are come" or "have come" correct use


I read some sentences which used "all are come". Is this correct formation?

Consider the following examples:

a) "All are come to office today" (Meaning Status)

b) "All have come to office today" (Meaning completed Action)

In the above example I feel sentence b) is correct.However If he is gone and they are gone are correct then can we use He is come and they are come in English?

Correct me if I am wrong.


Posted 2015-04-25T09:09:25.393

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"Are come" is an older form. Contemporary English speakers say "have come" (as this ngram attests: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=(are+come)%2C(have+come)&year_start=1600&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2C%28are%20come%29%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2C%28have%20come%29%3B%2Cc0)

– Tᴚoɯɐuo – 2015-04-25T11:22:58.223

3@TRomano: I've noticed that you answer a lot of questions in comments. I think it would be better if you posted your answers as answers, so that they can be upvoted (so the questions are no longer "unanswered"), accepted, etc. – ruakh – 2015-04-25T21:44:12.593

possible duplicate of He IS come - John 16:8

– cpast – 2015-04-25T22:02:49.340

It does seem like a duplicate but the answer by StoneyB is more detailed than the one in the older post. It would be a shame to lose this one IMO – Lucky – 2015-04-25T23:51:07.187



BE come on the analogy of BE gone is a good guess, and in fact in older English it was usual to use BE rather than HAVE to form the perfects of verbs of motion; but this is no longer idiomatic in Present-Day English.

Gone in "He's gone now" is what is sometimes called a deverbal: a participle that has been recategorized as an adjective. Some others are

  • done
  • excited and exciting
  • experiencing
  • finished
  • interested and interesting
  • surprised and surprising

You pretty much have to learn one by one which participles can be used as adjectives, and in what contexts: some can be used as predicate complements, some as attributives before the noun modified, some can be used both ways.

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Posted 2015-04-25T09:09:25.393

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Probably useful to mention that "I am excited" and "I have excited" are different unlike "I am done" and "I have done". I realize you're not pulling that comparison on purpose, but you placed those together in the list... – Victor Bazarov – 2015-08-27T12:59:17.843

@VictorBazarov To tell the truth, intransitive HAS done never occurred to me; it has practically disappeared from AmE, and my impression is that it survives in BrE mostly as an extended 'Code'. – StoneyB on hiatus – 2015-08-27T13:28:42.897